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Oscar's avatar

Oh my god... Every time I wonder whether leaving silicon valley was the right choice, another Jasmine Sun piece drops. I don't understand how you stay sane!

Jasmine Sun's avatar

I’m having fun!

Marcus Seldon's avatar

Ngl a lot of this feels like “new age alternative medicine, but for STEM nerds”.

Jasmine Sun's avatar

haha I think this is right

hunterwalk's avatar

this is all fascinating and, i dunno, to me scary. The combination of true believers and grifters is fascinating.

Brett Johnson's avatar

great read - re T, i’m also seeing more framing of its effects less as aggression increaser than a broader “booster” of what’s already there.

Untrickled by Michelle Teheux's avatar

That NYT story was great. First time I’ve seen that info anywhere but Reddit.

I normally tell people who say they can’t afford the GLP-1s to go on Reddit but now I can directly them to your story. Incidentally, a lot of people have zero SF or tech culture connections at all. Middle class moms in flyover country inject without knowing anybody else who is doing it.

Jasmine Sun's avatar

Yeah it’s increasingly mainstream! So much stuff on tiktok reddit etc

Morgan Vogel's avatar

This article nearly gave me a vasovagal response, particularly at the mention of needle play. Fascinating otherwise!

Sam Matey-Coste's avatar

Excellent explainer article.

Charles T Quinnelly's avatar

I first ran across the word Physiognomy years ago while reading Emerson. I like to think I'm an expert in this practice! Lol! Judging people, taking their inventory, sizing them up, friend or foe.

Vickram Pradhan's avatar

fascinating

Nikhil's avatar

This was a great read and so many comedic lines in here! Great work and thanks for doing so much research across all these categories! :)

473.999's avatar

That tizz vs rizz is a joke right? I mean people can't think that Altman/Zuck/Elon have charisma... right?

Tom White's avatar

It is (and always was) embodiment all the way down.

I wrote about this: “We keep pretending language is enough; that if you brute-force enough numbers and letters, intelligence will bloom. But that’s like trying to taste the wind or hear food.

AI can generate a sonnet, but it cannot feel shame. It can solve for heat transfer, but it cannot shiver. It can mimic intimacy, but it cannot fall in love.

Intelligence is more than just computation. It is perception and metabolism and touch and ache and hunger and joy all in one.

It is the humiliation of a first kiss, the dizziness of standing too quickly, the fatigue of carrying grief, the ache in the ribs after delirious laughter, the salt sting of sweat in the eyes, the way hunger hones thoughts and shortens temper.”

More: https://www.whitenoise.email/p/when-robin-williams-outsmarted-chatgpt

Zach's avatar

They all seem so deeply disconnected from their bodies and what it means to be a person and sort of normal

Computer David's avatar

this is just like that movie gremlins but all over again

Phil Bell's avatar

“Nearly one in four American adults is currently modifying their biology or morphology via significant pharmaceutical or surgical intervention,” estimates Ben Goldhaber.

How different is this to the introduction of coffee/ sugar? This is not to diminish the significance of nootropics, peptides etc. as coffee was also pretty significant. By the way, Daniel Smail’s book ‘Deep History and the Brain’ is super interesting on this - how we can think of history through a psychotropic balance between stressors (Orwell) and pleasure (Huxley). He argues culture is also a drug, in that it operates on the nervous system.